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		<title>Comment on A DAY AT THE IHH: &#8220;THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF YOUR SHREWD QUESTIONING!&#8221; by Keyifsohbet.com &#187; Taha Kıvanç &#8211; Bir gerilim romancısının maceraları</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keyifsohbet.com &#187; Taha Kıvanç &#8211; Bir gerilim romancısının maceraları]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 04:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] sonra gecesini gündüzünü &#8220;Türkiye elden gidiyor&#8221; mesajını yaymaya harcadığı anlaşılıyor. Galiba bir belgesel de çekmiş Mavi Marmara&#8217;nın planlı-programlı bir &#8216;kışkırtma [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sonra gecesini gündüzünü &#8220;Türkiye elden gidiyor&#8221; mesajını yaymaya harcadığı anlaşılıyor. Galiba bir belgesel de çekmiş Mavi Marmara&#8217;nın planlı-programlı bir &#8216;kışkırtma [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on So what do the Turkish people think? by David</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 11:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having followed the slanted reports in Huriyet at the time i&#039;m not that shocked that the Turks in this film are just so ignorant of the facts. I suppose they are no more ignorant than most people in the west who swallow the propaganda that the Israelis are just trying to bomb and starve the Gazans for their own sadistic purposes.

That despite the misrepresentation of the true purposes of the IHH and its provocative mission, a number of the interviewees could criticise their government and the IHH is interesting.

It&#039;s interesting that none of those interviewed were aware that Israel delivered all of the aid, outdated and much useless equipment, via the port of Ashdod.

In the age of mass media, with journalists only too willing to ignore the facts in service of the message, it is so easy to manipulate the truth. That&#039;s the really sad thing about all this. We have been here before though starting with the Boer War as written about by Jon Simpson in his book Unreliable Sources.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having followed the slanted reports in Huriyet at the time i&#8217;m not that shocked that the Turks in this film are just so ignorant of the facts. I suppose they are no more ignorant than most people in the west who swallow the propaganda that the Israelis are just trying to bomb and starve the Gazans for their own sadistic purposes.</p>
<p>That despite the misrepresentation of the true purposes of the IHH and its provocative mission, a number of the interviewees could criticise their government and the IHH is interesting.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that none of those interviewed were aware that Israel delivered all of the aid, outdated and much useless equipment, via the port of Ashdod.</p>
<p>In the age of mass media, with journalists only too willing to ignore the facts in service of the message, it is so easy to manipulate the truth. That&#8217;s the really sad thing about all this. We have been here before though starting with the Boer War as written about by Jon Simpson in his book Unreliable Sources.</p>
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		<title>Comment on So what do the Turkish people think? by Okan O</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Okan O]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 23:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah im going okan P here go talk to the kurds]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on A Detailed Critique of &#8220;The Historical Blindness of Turkey&#8217;s Detractors&#8221; &#8211; By Aliza Marcus in Foreign Policy by Travel Turkey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Travel Turkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 12:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice text, thank you.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on A Detailed Critique of &#8220;The Historical Blindness of Turkey&#8217;s Detractors&#8221; &#8211; By Aliza Marcus in Foreign Policy by okanp</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do feel that there has been a Sunni-ization of Turkey since the 1950&#039;s; however, I have not done much research on the matter to be able to accurately write or speak about the Alevi situation.

Nonetheless, here’s something I wrote with regard to the US Dept. Of State International Religious Freedom Report 2009 in one of my private e-mail correspondences last year: 

“I do not think it touches upon the problem of Sunni-zation of Turkey to the extent it should. The number of Jews, Armenians and Greeks has been dropping sharply since the mid-1950’s and even more sharply since late 1990’s due to governmental attitudes that affect these ethnicities. Since the recent rise of Islamism in mid-1990’s, anti-Semitic propaganda in the media and the religious parties has gone out of control with leftists and/or former leftists giving support to the Islamists. On the other hand, while the AKP talks as if they want to reach out to the Alevi’s, their actions have not gone beyond just the appearance of an effort. After all, the “cem” houses are still not official places of worship after 7 years of AKP.”

I wish the report would look into the matter much more meticulously one of these years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do feel that there has been a Sunni-ization of Turkey since the 1950&#8242;s; however, I have not done much research on the matter to be able to accurately write or speak about the Alevi situation.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, here’s something I wrote with regard to the US Dept. Of State International Religious Freedom Report 2009 in one of my private e-mail correspondences last year: </p>
<p>“I do not think it touches upon the problem of Sunni-zation of Turkey to the extent it should. The number of Jews, Armenians and Greeks has been dropping sharply since the mid-1950’s and even more sharply since late 1990’s due to governmental attitudes that affect these ethnicities. Since the recent rise of Islamism in mid-1990’s, anti-Semitic propaganda in the media and the religious parties has gone out of control with leftists and/or former leftists giving support to the Islamists. On the other hand, while the AKP talks as if they want to reach out to the Alevi’s, their actions have not gone beyond just the appearance of an effort. After all, the “cem” houses are still not official places of worship after 7 years of AKP.”</p>
<p>I wish the report would look into the matter much more meticulously one of these years.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Detailed Critique of &#8220;The Historical Blindness of Turkey&#8217;s Detractors&#8221; &#8211; By Aliza Marcus in Foreign Policy by Eastanbul Times</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real victims of sunni islamo-fascist state terror in Turkey are Alevis! The censorship against Alevis are still working.

1) Bahcelievler Massacre
7 students brutally killed by MHP in Bahcelievler Ankara ( now that fascist figures of MHP are mostly supporting AKP or they are AKP members and they are funded by Gulenist terror organisation) 

2) Corum Massacre 57 Alevi Killed by islamo-fascists! Babies women children mostly. The killers were supported by sunni state police and army they were killing and shouting kill them all Alevis are infidel CHP supporters! CHP is against islam! (MHP AKP and Gulenist militants are responsible as usual)

3) http://twitpic.com/37vbud 
http://twitpic.com/2ln0sc 
http://twitpic.com/2gsdek

Maras Massacre more than 8000 Alevi civilians killed by islamofascists  (MHP AKP and Nurcu Gulenist militants ) The sunnis killed again by shouting &#039;&#039;Kill the CHP Members  kill the enemies of islam&#039;&#039;  The sunni state censored the truth and told that only 117 people was killed. But the eyewitnesses told that the number of Alevi civilians killed by sunnis can be at least 8000 and can be up to  ten thousands!  The sunnis attacked 5 days to Alevis day and night and army and sunni state police helped the killers! The right wing supporters doctors even helped the killers. That is why sunni state of Turkey is called as a terrorist state! The newspapers published the photos of fetuses hung to the streets the sunnis butcher the pregnant Alevi women and hung the fetuses to the electric poles! 

After the Maras Massacre there are nearly no Alevis left in Maras all of their lands houses now invaded by sunnis!

4)  Malatya Massacre sunnis tried to kill Alevis but can not succeed  this time Alevis protected their families with guns!

5) Sivas Massacre  33 guests killed in Sivas during Alevi Festival by sunnis. Erdogan sent hundreds of  his workers from istanbul to start the massacre. Erbakan and Erdogan planned this massacre. For 11 hours the massacre broad-casted live more than 20,0000 sunnis joined the mob! The Nurcu Gulenist police helped the killers! Sivas is one of the most important Alevi cities and after the massacre the sunni state forced Alevis to leave Sivas now Sivas is at the hands of sunni islamofascists! Sivas is invaded by sunni terrorist ideology! Before the 1980 coup CHP was winning the Sivas municipality now CHP can not even have %15 in Sivas.   

6) Gazi Massacre  22 Alevi civilians killed by Nurcu Gulenist cops again this was broad-casted live in national TV channels.  

12 September Islamist coup was against CHP and Alevis! 440,000 CHP supporters arrested and tortured by the army. Alevi babies tortured by Army and police with their parents. Ten thousands of people killed by the state terror.  The islamofascist (Ummetçi) MHP and Milli Gorus and Gulenists are protected by the coup.  

Before your father you should talk about these facts! And there are 25 million Alevis in Turkey which you are trying to ignore! There is Apartheid against Alevis in Turkey and you and Claire both refuse to mention Alevis as usual! 

it is very easy to use the families of the victims because there is to much pain so no need to blame Erdost family. 

AKP is the coup AKP is 12 September!  These photos are from 2009 AKP members with Coup leader Kenan Evren.
http://twitpic.com/2khzbb
http://twitpic.com/2p0sqz

Still sunnis are killing people in Turkey Gulenist militants killed 3 Christians in Malatya by cutting their heads. Gulenist deep state killed Journalist Hrant Dink to use the assassination against innocent people like Prof. Haberal.  No islamists killed in Turkey but all CHP supporter Journalists, academicians leaders always killed. That is why AKP and Gulenist terrorists are powerful!  

And the Konya Speech of Erbakan (Milli Gorus head and leader of Erdogan) was used as a reason to make  12 September Islamist coup   but instead of islamists the coup targeted CHP and secularist people!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real victims of sunni islamo-fascist state terror in Turkey are Alevis! The censorship against Alevis are still working.</p>
<p>1) Bahcelievler Massacre<br />
7 students brutally killed by MHP in Bahcelievler Ankara ( now that fascist figures of MHP are mostly supporting AKP or they are AKP members and they are funded by Gulenist terror organisation) </p>
<p>2) Corum Massacre 57 Alevi Killed by islamo-fascists! Babies women children mostly. The killers were supported by sunni state police and army they were killing and shouting kill them all Alevis are infidel CHP supporters! CHP is against islam! (MHP AKP and Gulenist militants are responsible as usual)</p>
<p>3) <a href="http://twitpic.com/37vbud" rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/37vbud</a><br />
<a href="http://twitpic.com/2ln0sc" rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/2ln0sc</a><br />
<a href="http://twitpic.com/2gsdek" rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/2gsdek</a></p>
<p>Maras Massacre more than 8000 Alevi civilians killed by islamofascists  (MHP AKP and Nurcu Gulenist militants ) The sunnis killed again by shouting &#8221;Kill the CHP Members  kill the enemies of islam&#8221;  The sunni state censored the truth and told that only 117 people was killed. But the eyewitnesses told that the number of Alevi civilians killed by sunnis can be at least 8000 and can be up to  ten thousands!  The sunnis attacked 5 days to Alevis day and night and army and sunni state police helped the killers! The right wing supporters doctors even helped the killers. That is why sunni state of Turkey is called as a terrorist state! The newspapers published the photos of fetuses hung to the streets the sunnis butcher the pregnant Alevi women and hung the fetuses to the electric poles! </p>
<p>After the Maras Massacre there are nearly no Alevis left in Maras all of their lands houses now invaded by sunnis!</p>
<p>4)  Malatya Massacre sunnis tried to kill Alevis but can not succeed  this time Alevis protected their families with guns!</p>
<p>5) Sivas Massacre  33 guests killed in Sivas during Alevi Festival by sunnis. Erdogan sent hundreds of  his workers from istanbul to start the massacre. Erbakan and Erdogan planned this massacre. For 11 hours the massacre broad-casted live more than 20,0000 sunnis joined the mob! The Nurcu Gulenist police helped the killers! Sivas is one of the most important Alevi cities and after the massacre the sunni state forced Alevis to leave Sivas now Sivas is at the hands of sunni islamofascists! Sivas is invaded by sunni terrorist ideology! Before the 1980 coup CHP was winning the Sivas municipality now CHP can not even have %15 in Sivas.   </p>
<p>6) Gazi Massacre  22 Alevi civilians killed by Nurcu Gulenist cops again this was broad-casted live in national TV channels.  </p>
<p>12 September Islamist coup was against CHP and Alevis! 440,000 CHP supporters arrested and tortured by the army. Alevi babies tortured by Army and police with their parents. Ten thousands of people killed by the state terror.  The islamofascist (Ummetçi) MHP and Milli Gorus and Gulenists are protected by the coup.  </p>
<p>Before your father you should talk about these facts! And there are 25 million Alevis in Turkey which you are trying to ignore! There is Apartheid against Alevis in Turkey and you and Claire both refuse to mention Alevis as usual! </p>
<p>it is very easy to use the families of the victims because there is to much pain so no need to blame Erdost family. </p>
<p>AKP is the coup AKP is 12 September!  These photos are from 2009 AKP members with Coup leader Kenan Evren.<br />
<a href="http://twitpic.com/2khzbb" rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/2khzbb</a><br />
<a href="http://twitpic.com/2p0sqz" rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/2p0sqz</a></p>
<p>Still sunnis are killing people in Turkey Gulenist militants killed 3 Christians in Malatya by cutting their heads. Gulenist deep state killed Journalist Hrant Dink to use the assassination against innocent people like Prof. Haberal.  No islamists killed in Turkey but all CHP supporter Journalists, academicians leaders always killed. That is why AKP and Gulenist terrorists are powerful!  </p>
<p>And the Konya Speech of Erbakan (Milli Gorus head and leader of Erdogan) was used as a reason to make  12 September Islamist coup   but instead of islamists the coup targeted CHP and secularist people!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Detailed Critique of &#8220;The Historical Blindness of Turkey&#8217;s Detractors&#8221; &#8211; By Aliza Marcus in Foreign Policy by World Spinner</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;A Detailed Critique of “The Historical Blindness of Turkey&#039;s ......&lt;/strong&gt;

Here at World Spinner we are debating the same thing......]]></description>
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<p>Here at World Spinner we are debating the same thing&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on VIRGINS REQUIRED, NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY by halukterzi</title>
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		<title>Comment on A DAY AT THE IHH: &#8220;THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE DYING BECAUSE OF YOUR SHREWD QUESTIONING!&#8221; by haluk suybatmaz</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How did you pick up these people to inetrview?  Looks like  K12 homework...
These interviews do not give you ny idea anything...People who hng out t BEYOĞLU
do not represent Turkish people....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you pick up these people to inetrview?  Looks like  K12 homework&#8230;<br />
These interviews do not give you ny idea anything&#8230;People who hng out t BEYOĞLU<br />
do not represent Turkish people&#8230;.</p>
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i see you left the best for last...you sly dog]]></description>
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<p>i see you left the best for last&#8230;you sly dog</p>
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